You said something about sound and listening......

Krishnamurti: "We won’t speak of the mind, but when the brain is absolutely quiet, therefore there is no sound made by the word. This is real listening. The word only tells you what I want to convey. I listen to what you say......

"When the brain is active, it is noise. It is very interesting to enquire into sound. Pure sound can only exist when there is space and silence. Otherwise it is just noise......"

Question: What is sound to you Sir?

Krishnamurti: after a long silence: "Sound is the tree. Take Indian chanting, Gregorian chanting, they are extraordinarily close together. You listen to the sound of waves, of strong wind, the sound of a person you have lived with for many years, you get used to it all. But if you don’t then sound has an extraordinary meaning. Then you hear everything afresh."........

"Dialogues need not mean two people. Essentially its meaning seems to be a probing into something through a listening and challenging situation. I see that all problems that arise in the brain are born of time. They arise because of the need to change ‘what is’. The movement of the brain which wished to change ‘what is’ into something else creates time."...... Pupul Jayakar.

A Krishnamurti-style dialogue is full of empty spaces. It has been described thus:

"I think Krishnaji is saying that the purpose of a dialogue is not for a person to ask questions and for the other person to answer, but for the question and answer to come around, and in a sense move by itself between people.

So it is not one person giving information to another person, but it is a case of the question itself answering itself, using people’s voices as instrument.

But we have always the feeling that it must be in terms of a catechism — a questions and answer. Krishnaji is saying that if there is a time when the question ceases, that too is a very valuable time, that too is in fact, very natural. In a sense what it shows is an image, an echo of what he was talking about earlier — namely, is there a being (an "I" or a "you") at this point, or is there a becoming, or is there something which is other than the two? Looked at from one point there is being; looked at from another point, when all questions cease, then who is there to ask any question, who is there to understand?

That holding the question, or holding the answer if there is no question, is itself in a sense, a dialogue. It is a meditation in which no words are spoken because it is " yato vaacho nivartante", a state where words do not reach." Professor George Sudarshan.


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